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Post by Brad Tipton on Feb 14, 2008 22:40:15 GMT -5
I went to Mystery Hole with two Johns today. I used my new OR1 double bungee for the 1st time. It was a hell of a lot more difficult than I imagined.  I really felt it in my back during the climb. Halfway up I loosened the chest harness to relieve some pressure, but it was still quite uncomfortable. Anyone have any suggestions that could ease my pain? |
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Post by L Roebuck on Feb 15, 2008 16:23:11 GMT -5
Gosh, it sounds like you may have strained your back muscles. Did you try pain or anti-inflammatory medications or the hot and cold therapy?
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Post by Brad Tipton on Feb 15, 2008 19:53:30 GMT -5
No.....my back is fine. When I was climbing I could feel a lot of pressure right between my shoulder blades. In order to relieve some of the pressure I gripped the rope above my head instead of letting my arms down beside me.
I am going to work on my techique tomorrow at Valhalla. Maybe I just need to get a better feel for it. Right now I am thinking that maybe I should go back to frogging.
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Post by juselton on Feb 22, 2008 11:28:46 GMT -5
You could try a longer bungee. I'm 5'4" and changed from a small to a medium. I noticed a big difference. Simple fix if it works for you.
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Post by Tim White on Feb 25, 2008 12:17:02 GMT -5
Brad- IMHO OR1's bungie is WAY to short! Berta and I have replaced almost everyone for folks that we have taught SRT. I will almost guarantee that is the problem. If you still find it uncomfortable, we will take a look at it when up we see you again.  Bruce will and does disagrees with us. BTW Cuddington agrees with me and Berta.   |
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Post by Chad Dubuisson on Feb 26, 2008 16:04:55 GMT -5
What kind of chest harness are you using with it Brad?
That hammock style chest harness sure is alot more comfortable then anything else out there. When I worked with Bruce, I sold many rope walkers to many people and many times, people especially at events, would return again the next day after a trip to upgrade to that more comfortable chest harness. If your not using one, perhaps that could help.
I also agree with Tim about the bungee size. It too may fix your problem & is probably the best place to start tweaking.
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Post by Brad Tipton on Feb 26, 2008 18:03:26 GMT -5
What kind of chest harness are you using with it Brad? That hammock style chest harness sure is alot more comfortable then anything else out there. When I worked with Bruce, I sold many rope walkers to many people and many times, people especially at events, would return again the next day after a trip to upgrade to that more comfortable chest harness. If your not using one, perhaps that could help. I also agree with Tim about the bungee size. It too may fix your problem & is probably the best place to start tweaking. Actually I went with the hammock upgrade from the start. I have lowered my chest plate down a few inches and this has seemed to resolve my issue, but when I stand straight up the bungee is extended to it's limit and I have to take off the foot straps to walk upright. I am exactly 6 feet tall. Because the bungee hinders me. I rappell with my ropewalker clipped to my seat harness. I have a full frog system on already so if the need to changeover arises I'm not left hanging.....literally speaking. I wouldn't mind getting some 2nd opinions from you guys say on a future caving trip. ;D |
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Post by Tim White on Feb 27, 2008 8:30:19 GMT -5
I have lowered my chest plate down a few inches and this has seemed to resolve my issue, but when I stand straight up the bungee is extended to it's limit and I have to take off the foot straps to walk upright Way to tight!!! Berta's general rule for bungie tightness: Standing upright, with the chest-roller/plate in climbing position, there should be 2 - 3" or so of stretch still in the bungie. Not my opinion...this comes from record holder Berta, who climbs thousands of feet rope a year on a ropewalker. Sounds like we need to get on another cave trip soon, Brad.  |
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Post by Brad Tipton on Feb 27, 2008 14:10:04 GMT -5
I have lowered my chest plate down a few inches and this has seemed to resolve my issue, but when I stand straight up the bungee is extended to it's limit and I have to take off the foot straps to walk upright Way to tight!!! Berta's general rule for bungie tightness: Standing upright, with the chest-roller/plate in climbing position, there should be 2 - 3" or so of stretch still in the bungie. Not my opinion...this comes from record holder Berta, who climbs thousands of feet rope a year on a ropewalker. Sounds like we need to get on another cave trip soon, Brad. I guess I need to get me a longer bungee for sure. You two need to come up before it gets hot outside. Maybe we could visit that cave in North Jackson Co we were talking about.  |
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Post by tagcaverat46542 on Jan 10, 2009 0:12:04 GMT -5
I always make and sew all my bungies. Because I use a double pulley system on my bungies, I always make them.
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Post by deepcaver on Jan 13, 2009 18:30:07 GMT -5
It's usually a good idea NOT to try out BRAND spanking new gear for the first time on an actual cave trip. Best to get on rope outside in a tree or off a short cliff to "break it in" then pop the cherry cave use.
Walking out of the store it's amazing to find how the fit just isn't the same as when you're deep down inside.
Unless you've the experience (respectfully spoken) to know how/where to make adjustments on the spot... better to "play with it" outside and with someone who can see where it needs adjusting here and there.
No ascent should be uncomfortable, IMO
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