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Post by Trey on Apr 3, 2009 6:58:07 GMT -5
Yea, that is what I thought. I am still not convinced we are causing it. Also, the way the media is being allowed to defame cavers to the public disgusts me. We should sue the USFWS for defamation if it is proved later we (cavers) are NOT the cause. Trey
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Post by Trey on Apr 3, 2009 3:26:27 GMT -5
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Post by Trey on Apr 2, 2009 6:09:24 GMT -5
Cave on indeed.
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Post by Trey on Mar 31, 2009 16:51:44 GMT -5
Roy Powers and Kristen Bobo out of a job. Music to my ears. I will glad to be on the gate removal team. The longer WNS goes on the longer the biologists can get their funding, in other words, justify their jobs I don't believe they are in a hurry at all.
Trey
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Post by Trey on May 30, 2007 6:55:00 GMT -5
The Yuppie boating entrance started out as a hole the size of a grapefruit... with TONS of air. There were several of us digging that day. Chuck Manglesdorf (a lawyer) and Ian Jones (soon to be doctor) were along to help. Everyone was exciting as the dig took shape. As afternoon set in, it looked as though we were getting nowhere. Chuck and Ian were going out on the lake with their girlfriends the next day, so Chuck stood up and announced " We will never get in today, Ian and I are going boating with the babes". They left the mountain, and we kept digging. That evening as the sun was wavering, we broke through, and got a person in to the lip of the first pit. We laughed at what Chuck had proclaimed, and named it after the two yuppies who did not believe. Trey
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Post by Trey on May 29, 2007 15:57:58 GMT -5
Wow, so the only way in now is the Yuppie boating entrance. We dug that open in one day. Good times. A rock the size of a basketball fell 2 feet onto Jack Wheat's head and shoulders. He roared and flung it in the air like it was a pillow.
Trey
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Post by Trey on May 24, 2007 16:57:21 GMT -5
Yea I gave my opinion of what cave it is. Don't even get me started on Bumbling Falls cave. Guess cave, wasn't there, don't care.
Once again, if you put it on the net ... it is fair game. Maybe someone will learn a lesson. Who knows.
Trey
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Post by Trey on May 24, 2007 9:23:21 GMT -5
I understand the urge to want to share one's finds. However, if you are working a lead and you want to keep its location/name secret, don't post about it at all till your done. The fact it is a "closed" cave is all the more reason to keep quiet.
This group's "need for acceptance from the caving community" could very well cause a crap storm as "cast of thousands" descend upon the cave to get a notch on their rack. In a cave that is on the closed cave list no less.
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Post by Trey on May 24, 2007 8:48:24 GMT -5
Acceptance of what?
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Post by Trey on May 24, 2007 7:38:14 GMT -5
Keeping it off the net in the first place is a good start. The need for glory is a powerful thing.
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Post by Trey on May 23, 2007 23:09:59 GMT -5
Sounds like Hidden Well in Dorton Knob smokehole.
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Post by Trey on Jan 28, 2008 9:02:10 GMT -5
Read a post on Tag-net this morning. The upper entrance of this cave has been closed by the owner due to this accident. I hope everyone takes the time to read the UK forum. There is plenty to be learned there. I agree with the Brits, the technique used was flawed. Trey Caplenor
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Post by Trey on Apr 16, 2007 9:23:14 GMT -5
It was a fun trip indeed. I thought we made good time for such a large group. There is plenty more to see for those who are up for it. Trey
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