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Post by Taylor on Mar 3, 2006 9:56:22 GMT -5
You're both welcome. Glad to help.
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Post by Taylor on Mar 2, 2006 12:13:21 GMT -5
U.S. Cavers Forum has not really been advertised widely to cavers. An ad could be placed in the classified ads section of the NSS News if anyone is inclined to do so.
Another idea for some of you prolific writers out there would be to write an article on all of the caving forums currently available to cavers and the content offered within and submit it to the NSS News. There are several national forums like US Cavers Forum and Caver's Digest as well as the many regional forums i.e. Colorado Caving, TAG-Net, NRO digest, Cave Tex, etc., and they are all different and informative in their own way.
More information leads to better informed cavers.
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Post by Taylor on Jan 24, 2006 8:21:17 GMT -5
The NSS Members Manual Committee Is Looking for Cover Photos
The NSS Members Manual Committee is gearing up to produce the 2006 NSS Members Manual and we need a great photograph for the cover. In general, we're looking for a photo that depicts caving -- sort of a generic photo that defines caving. It would be nice to have a caver in it, but not someone who can be identified.
Whether you are an amateur or professional photographer, please consider entering your best work. E-mail a small .JPG to Meredith Hall Johnson (Editor), merecaver at yahoo, by March 15, 2006. There is no limit to the number of photos you may enter.
If your photo is selected, you will be contacted by e-mail and required to write a very short bio for inclusion in the Members Manual. You will then be asked to provide a high-resolution .JPG via CD-ROM. All photographers are welcome, whether or not you have ever been published or entered the annual NSS Photo Salon.
By the way, you must be a current (IOW, paid up for 2006!) NSS member in order to submit photos for the NSS Members Manual.
Thanks, Meredith Hall Johnson NSS 21477RL FE 2006 NSS Members Manual Editor
(Permission given to reprint/repost.)
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Post by Taylor on Mar 12, 2006 13:32:34 GMT -5
perhaps Wayne felt the dire need to advertise his forum on US Caver's as well as other discussion boards like Colorado Caves because most of the caving community have noticed that of the "nearly 700 NSS forum users" on average a mere 30-40 are active/online on the NSS Forum. Here is another example of Harrison's exploitation; using the Colorado caving forum to benefit a personal agenda. When forum users called Harrison on his actions; using their forum as a promotional tool to direct users to the NSS forum, he dismissed their concerns and cited his goals for the NSS forum. coloradocaves.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=332Why is this troublesome or why should anyone be concerned: Because the majority of caving forums are maintained and administered by NSS Members, some for over a decade and at the member's personal financial expense. Each forum serves as a tool to benefit cavers, speleology, and conservation of caves, in addition to providing fellowship between those interested in caves. Each caving forum serves as one element of the fellowship purpose of the NSS mission statement.
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Post by Taylor on Dec 10, 2006 12:19:59 GMT -5
2007 NSS-CDS Spring Workshop May 25–28, 2007 – NSS-CDS Annual Workshop – Live Oak, Florida USA The rustic splendor of Camp Weed will serve as the backdrop for the 2007 Annual Cave Diving Section Workshop. The theme for the 2007 event is "Cave Diving around the World", and will highlight the global growth of the sport of cave diving. Located off U.S. Hwy 90 between Live Oak and Lake City, Camp Weed is in the heart of "Cave Country". A short drive in any direction will lead divers to many well-known cave diving destinations. The event will get under way on Friday night with a social hosted at the Dive Outpost in Luraville. Saturday will feature presentations, special interest sessions, and displays of the latest in dive equipment presented by a number of top manufacturers. Sunday will provide members with additional special interest mini-workshops in addition to guided dives at some of the area's most pristine locations. Guided dives will also be available on Monday. Camp Weed offers a variety of lodging options to suit most needs and budgets. From hotel rooms, to private cabins, to primitive camping, this location offers it all. All reservations for lodging should be made directly with the Camp Weed Staff (386) 364-5250. For more information, contact the Workshop Chairman: Dr. DeWayne Hyatt BamaCaveDiver@fuse.net or Forrest Wilson vicechairman@nsscds.org www.nsscds.org/
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Post by Taylor on Oct 4, 2006 0:07:11 GMT -5
Remains of first tribe to encounter Columbus studied IU professor and students find 540 artifacts, extinct sloth By Savannah Worley October 03, 2006 The unwritten story of the native people who Christopher Columbus first met is now being recorded by IU researcher Charles Beeker and his team of graduate students. Though many people know about the Niña, Pinta and Santa Maria -- the three ships Columbus used in his famous voyage -- few have heard of the Taíno, the ancient tribe Columbus stumbled upon when he arrived in the Caribbean. Beeker, director of the IU Office of Underwater Science and Educational Resources, and his students will travel to the Dominican Republic in November to continue researching the Taíno's lost culture. Last summer Beeker and 10 of his students studied underwater caves near the Dominican Republic, which Beeker said might have been dwelling areas of the Taíno, pre-Columbian inhabitants of the Caribbean. The Taíno were the first people the explorer met when he arrived in the New World, Beeker said, but "many people know (about) Christopher Columbus but not the Taíno." Beeker and his crew found artifacts depicting animal faces in these underwater caves, as well as drawings of animal faces on the cave walls. Beeker said he and his crew have found a total of 540 Taíno artifacts in many caves around the Caribbean. In late May, Beeker's crew also found the remains of an extinct ground sloth in one of the underwater caves, which the Dominican Republic allowed the crew to bring back to IU. Zavala said the sloth is a part of the sloth family called Megalonychidae and finding it could help researchers determine whether the Taíno interacted with sloth or used it as a food source. Beeker said the sloth might have crawled into the cave before it was submerged. Currently not much is known about that particular sloth. Beeker said approval of a grant is still pending for a carbon-14 test, which can determine when the sloth died. The sloth could be significant in finding out more about the pre-Columbian days of the Caribbean, as well as learning about the Taíno. "We're finding phenomenal resources," he said. "We have never found a sloth. ... This could help IU's understanding of the Caribbean." Beeker said he and others from IU started studying in the Dominican Republic in 1997, but the study expanded to the Caribbean in 1992. He said IU is the only university working in that region. "If you want to study the Dominican Republic, you come to IU," he said. Beeker will again head to the Caribbean for 10 days this November, as well as early this summer with a team of 10 to 12 students. Full Article
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Post by Taylor on Sept 11, 2006 15:10:20 GMT -5
Missing Belgian diver found after six day search Monday, September 11, 2006 Guardia Civil divers have finally recovered the body of Marc Goyen, a Belgian diver who went missing on the 22nd August, in a submerged cave near the port of L'Estartit (Girona). After six days of intensive effort, the diver was found this morning floating on the ceiling of a hidden chamber of the main cave that has a very narrow entrance, which explains how it had been previously overlooked. It was necessary to attach a 35kg lead weight to the badly decomposed body to bring it down to a level where it could be hauled through the chamber's extremely narrow aperture, but the body was finally brought to the surface shortly before 1pm this afternoon, and has now been taken for forensic examination in L'Estartit. www.thinkspain.com/news-spain/11816
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Post by Taylor on Apr 27, 2006 8:00:51 GMT -5
Exploring new depths in the Yucatan April 24, 2006 Not everyone goes to the Yucatan Peninsula for fun in the sun, or even to gawk at freshly burnt, underdressed wild girls on spring break. Not far away from the all-expenses-paid debauchery of Cancun, more adventurous travellers can experience the awesome natural grandeur of underwater caverns - the cenotes of the Mayan Coast. These underwater rivers once served as an important source of fresh water for the Mayan civilization. The cenotes (a corruption of the Mayan word "dzonot", meaning "sacred well") also served a spiritual function. At least one cenote in Chichén Itzá was a place of worship and sacrifice, including human sacrifice. Formed over the ages by acidic groundwater seeping through the soft limestone and eating away cavities in the even softer rock beneath, cenotes have weathered rises and declines in sea levels which have left them intermittently dry and flooded. As a result, visitors can see many beautiful formations of stalactites and stalagmites - protrusions in rocks that look like icicles hanging down from the cave top or pushing up from the floor - in the dry parts of the cavern systems. Continued erosion has eaten away the surface rock above the sinkholes, creating holes for sunlight to illuminate the spellbindingly beautiful grottos of this subterranean world and creating access points for the curious. Hundreds of kilometres of interconnected caverns lie hidden beneath the surface, many of them as yet unexplored. Some have been made accessible to the public. Many visitors stop by for a relaxing swim in the remarkably clear waters. Others go further, exploring caverns and depths far from the security of the entry points. For them, several diving operations are available to rent out diving equipment and skilled guides. Combining the thrills of spelunking and scuba-diving, cavern-diving is not for the claustrophobic or faint-of-heart. Many have died through being poorly prepared or equipped to deal with the unique dangers of this environment. Regular scuba certification is all you need to dive at depths of up to 30 metres and distances of up to 60 metres from light and air as long as you are accompanied by a professional guide. Still, it pays to shop around for the best guide. You should seek out an experienced cave diver who can demonstrate the techniques and safety precautions that will decrease the inherent risks of this activity. For some, cavern diving offers an interesting change of pace from open water diving. Others appreciate that it can be done in any sort of weather; the water is always calm, the temperate is moderate and the visibility is excellent as long as you remain in the sun-lit cavern areas. Foraying further into the vast underwater complexes of caves should only be undertaken by a properly certified cave diver. Certification for cave-diving can take eight days and costs $1,660 at the Cenote Dive Center in Tulum, 132 kilometres south of Cancun. The price includes equipment rentals and 16 dives. Other companies offer similar programs and rates. Exploring the cenotes of the Mayan Coast may be somewhat more perilous than getting watered-down pina coladas from an undertipped barman, but for those who aren't tempted by the superficial entertainment of the package deal resorts, the cenotes are a good way to get below the surface of the Yucatan. www.canada.com/topics/travel/story.html?id=89125bac-fcb6-4baa-9e15-eb8685d9c411&k=78421
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Post by Taylor on Mar 23, 2006 7:50:50 GMT -5
Caveman of the Ottawa'You tend not to hurt yourself -- you tend to be dead' when you make a mistake while cave diving Shannon Proudfoot March 19, 2006 In the cold and murky waters of the Ottawa River, far beneath the fishing boats and pleasure craft, lies a series of subterranean passageways and caves that threaten to swallow any person who ventures into them. Dr. David Sawatzky, a 51-year-old Toronto-based physician who has worked as a diving medicine consultant for the military, has spent the past 15 years mapping more than 10 kilometres of Ottawa River caves never before been seen by human eyes. On Friday, he will recount his underwater exploits in a talk at the Canadian Museum of Nature. He took some time out from a vacation in Florida -- which included more cave-diving, of course -- to talk to the Citizen about why he can't get enough of this dangerous hobby. Dr. Sawatzky on getting started ... In the early 1980s, he learned to scuba dive and also began exploring air-filled, underwater caves in the Rockies, which is known as "dry-caving" among the initiated. He combined these two hobbies and moved onto cave-diving because he wanted to explore the submerged portions of caves that otherwise cut his explorations short. "I easily could have killed myself. What I did was what people did before there were courses. I was a very experienced dry-caver, so I was well aware of the dangers of the cave, and that's something a lot of open-water divers don't know. I read everything I could read, and I started cave-diving." It was a daring move into a sport with a learning curve so steep that most mistakes are fatal. ... on the danger: "You tend not to hurt yourself -- you tend to be dead. There's not a lot of people injured in cave-diving" who survive, says Dr. Sawatzky. Worldwide, about 500 people have died cave-diving. They may run out of light, get lost and run out of air trying to find the surface, or they may misjudge the amount of air needed to get out safely. Some take on dives that are too challenging for their experience and training, while others fall prey to "nitrogen narcosis" from the gas used to dilute the compressed oxygen in their air tank, and end up "drunk" and disoriented at the bottom of the river. The inhospitable caves in typically frigid Canadian waters are even more unforgiving than the caves in Florida and Mexico, where most people dive. "There are maybe 500 Canadians trained in cave-diving, but there's about 10 of us that actually dive in Canada, because the caves are not nearly as friendly. They're cold, they're dark, they're difficult to access, they're much more dangerous, they're not as pretty." ... on the appeal: "It's Star Trek: to boldly go where no man has gone before. If you are a true explorer, there are very few options on planet Earth to find something completely new ... and the beauty of caving is that you have no idea what you're going to discover. It's addictive, it's a definite high." He enjoys "solving the problem that is the cave," measuring each passageway and recording the dimensions on a plastic slate, then plotting it out on a computer to generate a map of the labyrinthine underground world. ... on the underground landscape: He has discovered toy boats and dolls, garbage and huge rocks that tumble from seemingly stable cave roofs. As his flippers propel him forward, a blinding silt drifts up from the bottom and obscures his view, so the rope he lays down becomes a lifeline to the surface. The caves are like air bubbles in a slice of Swiss cheese, cutting through the peninsulas that jut into the water. Where they run close to the surface, the roof may collapse and form a small pool that offers access to the cave system. "The caves have very different characters. Even the caves under the Ottawa River have quite different characters, depending upon the different passageways." The Ottawa River caves are relatively accessible by the challenging standards of Canadian caves, and clustered just downstream of Pembroke. They are the longest known underwater caves in Canada, with passages varying from one to 38 metres in width. The caves formed in the weak areas between layers of limestone, so in some places the passages are stacked on two levels like a parking garage. No vegetation grows in the winding tunnels, but the clams, crayfish and sturgeon that live in the river also occupy the caves, making the cave entrances near the surface popular fishing holes. ... on tangling with the wildlife: When the silt on the bottom of the caves gets stirred up, a diver can only be seen by the occasional flashes of light on his equipment, making him look like a tasty minnow to the large fish trawling the area. When they dart in for what they hope will be dinner, it can be incredibly dangerous for a diver clinging to the nylon rope that will get him back to the surface. A school of pike gave Dr. Sawatzky some scary moments during one zero-visibility dive in an Ottawa River cave. "There are some fairly aggressive fish in the Ottawa River, and they're in the caves as well. It's like being punched. Some of the larger fish hit very hard, so I got punched a few times by fish. When one hit my hand, I didn't let go" of his rope " -- I sort of expected it might be coming." On being awarded the Star of Courage: Dr. Sawatzky and some friends were exploring a new and difficult underground passage near Tobermory, Ont., when one of his diving companions went down alone and got lost. When he didn't surface after an hour -- all the time he would have had with his air tank -- Dr. Sawatzky went in after him, although at that point he believed he was "looking for a body." But when he wriggled through a tiny gap in the cave, he found a cavernous chamber with an air pocket -- and his friend waiting patiently for someone to find him. "He should have been dead by all rights, but he was extremely lucky. Air pockets are very, very, very rare in underwater caves." It took several hours for the other divers to round up more equipment and figure out how to get the two men out, but both emerged safely, although Dr. Sawatzky notes that he didn't return to that particular cave for five years. In 1995, the governor general awarded Dr. Sawatzky the Star of Courage for saving his friend. It is Canada's second-highest award for bravery, bestowed "for acts of courage in circumstances of great peril." - - - David Sawatzky's lecture Dr. Sawatzky's talk Friday at the Canadian Museum of Nature will provide an introduction to a screening of The Hidden Rivers of Florida, a documentary that explores the fragile ecosystem of Florida's springs. The special screening, part of the museum's High-Def Movie Festival, begins at 7 p.m. For more information, go to www.nature.ca© The Ottawa Citizen 2006 www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/story.html?id=3ed1be6b-5dbd-4892-89ed-e543bdbaf4f4
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Post by Taylor on Mar 23, 2006 7:48:18 GMT -5
Mayan underworld proves researchers' dream 22 March 2006 TULUM: The ancient Maya once believed that Mexico's jungle sinkholes containing crystalline waters were the gateway to the underworld and the lair of a surly rain god who had to be appeased with human sacrifices. Divers make their way through a freshwater sinkhole, known as a cenote, in Mexico's Yucatan peninsula. Reuters Now, the "cenotes" - deep sinkholes in limestone that have pools at the bottom - are yielding scientific discoveries including possible life-saving cancer treatments. Divers are dipping into the cenotes, which stud the Yucatan peninsula, to explore a vast underground river system. Hefting air tanks, guidelines and waterproof lamps, they have so far mapped 405 miles of channels that form part of a huge subterranean river delta flowing into the Caribbean sea, and they are only just starting. Scientists investigating the network of caverns and galleries, formed by rainwater passing through porous limestone, have found a wealth of early archeological relics and prehistoric animal bones. They also have identified dozens of new aquatic species specially adapted to extreme environmental conditions which could have medical applications. In the Riviera Maya, a strip of Caribbean tourist resorts including the world-famous archeological site of Tulum, there are more than 500 cenotes. Some are open to the jungle, while others have tiny eye-like holes letting in sunlight and jungle roots. Their waters have filtered through sponge-like limestone which leaves them so transparent that divers say they feel like they are floating in space. The pools range in depth from a few feet to an abyss where explorers have still not touched bottom at more than 500 feet. "It is proving to be a totally unique environment," said marine biologist Tom Iliffe of Texas A&M University. "We are finding things down there including forms of life that no one had ever guessed existed, and there is a lot more work to be done." BLIND FISH AND MAMMOTHS The Yucatan sits on a limestone plateau where rainwater percolates down to nonporous rock below ground. Over millions of years, underground river systems have formed that flow out to the sea through caves. The region's 7000 to 8000 cenotes were formed when caves collapsed in on themselves. The resulting sinkholes became a vital water source and a focus for Mayan sacrifices to honor Chac, the volatile, crocodile-like rain deity. In recent years, biologists delving into the underlying river systems, which unlike the sinkholes are jet-black because of the lack of sunlight, have identified 40 entirely new species, mostly blind shrimps and fish which have adapted to life in the system's harsh conditions, where dissolved oxygen and food are scarce. Among the startling discoveries are microorganisms that live in the transitional zone where the fresh water rivers flow out into the Caribbean, and salt-water sponges which may contain anti-tumor compounds. "Research is at an early stage, but it is quite possible that the bacteria and sponges may have potential biomedical applications including cures for cancer," Iliffe told Reuters in a telephone interview. "There is a great deal of scientific excitement about it." Other finds made by divers roaming the deep, dark corridors include the bones of giant jungle sloths, rabbits and even mammoths dating back beyond the last Ice Age. "When you come up and tell people there are elephants down there they really think you've gone crazy," said Sam Meacham, an underwater explorer and conservationist. THREATENED BY DEVELOPMENT In the past three decades the population of the Riviera Maya has soared 10-fold to close to 1 million people, as tourists from the United States, Europe and Mexico flock to the palm-fringed strip to soak up the sun. Environmentalists say that the explosive development has been only patchily regulated and warn that waste produced by resort hotels and service towns in the area is already polluting the complex underground oasis. "It's totally the Wild West, when what is needed is carefully planned, sustainable development," said Meacham, who runs the Quintana Roo Water Systems Research Center, a local non-profit group that raises consciousness about water issues in schools. Water conservation will be a key issue when ministers, hydrologists and environmentalists from around the world meet at the World Water Forum in Mexico City from March 16-22. Meacham says human sewage is pumped deep underground, and that at least one water system in the Yucatan has been polluted with fecal matter. The impact of 250 tonnes of trash dumped in landfills each day has yet to be evaluated. The hundreds of tourists who dive and snorkel each day in any of a dozen cenotes and caves open to the public are also unwittingly destroying the ecosystems before they can be properly understood, Iliffe says. "Fish are following the divers into the caves and they gobble up all the life, and they (the caves) are left biologically sterile," he said. "When you consider that they could possibly lead to a cure for cancer, it is essential to conserve them." www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3611410a2180,00.html
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Post by Taylor on Aug 21, 2007 23:34:09 GMT -5
Not a url, but will tell you where one slide show link came from. www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/50143/I now know more about flickr than any self respecting caver should ever need to know in a lifetime. The shame of it all.
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Post by Taylor on Aug 21, 2007 16:29:27 GMT -5
I purposely did not say where the flickr slide show is located. I am content to let this drag out while bystanders observe it in action for a change. At best it will force the non-involved to take off the blinders, at worst it will be harder for those who opt to look the other way to deny knowledge of the flickr issue later. They have to utilize the photographs from your flickr groups Lynn. Their own flickr group has less members and less photographs, drawing little interest from cavers. Photographs from other groups gives their slide shows a variety and interest that they would otherwise not have. I'm waiting for the nekkid caving photos to be flickrized and included in the next slide show.
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Post by Taylor on Aug 21, 2007 8:31:59 GMT -5
Greetings cavers, I saw more of Lynn's photos on another slide show just this morning. Another link created within the last day to capture photos for the community Flickr Caving Photos. Hope we'll see more of your most recent photographic work on this other link too. www.flickr.com/photos/tags/caving/interesting/show/Are these links being changed to capture images of choice? This link is not all inclusive of the community Flickr photos with a tag of caving? Wonder who is creating the mulitple links and why more than one link is needed?
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Post by Taylor on Aug 19, 2007 13:15:12 GMT -5
Absolutely brilliant! The copyright on the photos is great, but the rest, ingenious. You were given lemons and made lemonade. Huge amounts of respect to you.
Everyone be sure to click on the photos for more information.
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Post by Taylor on Nov 28, 2006 23:16:59 GMT -5
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Post by Taylor on Sept 26, 2006 20:47:31 GMT -5
SPELEO PROJECTS Caving Calendar 2007Experience the wonders of the underground world from the perspective of thirteen cave photographers and their assistants as they take you into the wild caves of France, Germany, Greece, India, Iran, Italy, the Ukraine and the United States. The high-quality 2007 Caving Calendar by Speleo Projects features the world's longest salt cave (3N Cave, Iran), spectacular speleothems and passages, an underground lake, an ice formation, and siphon diving. This year's cave photographers are from Croatia, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Switzerland, the UK and the USA. Available directly from Speleo Projects, or in the U.S. from Speleobooks.
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Post by Taylor on May 13, 2006 5:11:42 GMT -5
Very nice photos on the website: www.innermostimagery.com/As someone who spends a lot of time viewing cave photography, I think a photo exhibit is a good way to spend an afternoon. Thanks for giving a head's up on the dates Bob. Good luck with the showing!
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Post by Taylor on Apr 8, 2006 12:17:31 GMT -5
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Post by Taylor on Mar 10, 2006 19:55:12 GMT -5
Stephen Alvarez, well known for his cave photography, will be speaking at the Banff Centre on May 3, 2006. Many of his photographs will be on exhibit prior to the presentation. Unfortunately, the Banff Centre is located in Canada. Hopefully his tour will extend into the United States in the future. With few blank places left on the map, pushing the realm of exploration in modern times has become more challenging. Photographer Stephen Alvarez has been exploring the unknown wonders of the underground for over 14 years. Join him in a photographic adventure, as he shares breathtaking images of the world's largest caves and most beautiful chambers. Come early to enjoy the opening of the associated exhibition at 7 p.m.www.banffcentre.com/events/calendar/event_detail.aspx?sn=2690
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Post by Taylor on Mar 5, 2006 22:12:47 GMT -5
Based upon a few comments taken from the EVP Report, I believe a course of action for the future has been determined. There was some controversy about some images in the February issue of the News including the semi-nude that was a salon winner and some of those of human remains. Dave has agreed to avoid printing both types of images in the future whether they are winners of salon awards or not, and he hopes this will hedge against any attempts to place more restrictions on the salons. www.caves.org/nss-business/reports/mar06/evp.html
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Post by Taylor on Mar 2, 2006 11:29:53 GMT -5
The well done photograph "Sabrina Framed Phreatically" found in the February 2006 issue of the NSS News drew critics out of the woodwork creating a bit of controversy on some caving forums. On other forums it received praise as quality artwork, without an undue amount of attention from either side of the issue.
Just curious to hear the opinions of other cavers regarding the publishing of like pictures in future issues of the NSS News, plus thoughts on whether the NSS Salon rules should be changed to limit material.
Cady Soukup also had some interest and tried to engage cavers in this topic, though she did not receive much feedback.
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Post by Taylor on Jan 31, 2006 17:03:01 GMT -5
Greetings fellow cavers and cave photographers, Speleo Projects is now accepting submissions of quality caving photographs for publication in our 2007 Caving Calendar, and possibly other publications. **** DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSIONS: MARCH 15, 2006 **** Guidelines and a submission form may be downloaded here: www.speleoprojects.com/pics/downloads/Photo_Call.pdfFor more information or questions, please contact Sue Widmer at sue@speleoprojects.com Happy Caving in 2006! Sue Widmer Speleo Projects - Caving Publications International Lettenweg 118 CH-4123 Allschwil Switzerland
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