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Post by Rock on Mar 26, 2006 14:41:18 GMT -5
I found this today. So apparently you do not have to join the National Speleological Society to get these magazines. This link has them available to the public. Subscriptions can be purchased on Amazon.com for $53.65, 14 issues/12 months. Does this mean it is the NSS News AND the Journal Of Caves & Karst Studies  www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006KQRB/002-5579115-9134464?v=glanceNSS News C-w Journal Of Caves & Karst Studies [MAGAZINE SUBSCRIPTION]Product Details Format: Magazine Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S. Publisher: Natl Speleological Soc Inc ASIN: B00006KQRB Amazon.com Sales Rank: #8,173 in Magazines (See Top Sellers in Magazines) Yesterday: #8,167 in Magazines For magazine orders, your name and mailing address will be shared with the appropriate publisher. This magazine subscription is provided by Magazine Express, Inc. Editorial Reviews From the Publisher The NSS News is a monthly publication of the National Speleological Society. Feature articles typically include cave exploration, cave conservation, cave history, or cave science. Regular columns include Technology (reviews and discussion of cave gear, high-tech and otherwise), In the Media (summaries of cave-related articles in the popular press), Underground Update (summaries of information in Grotto and Regional publications), Spelean Spotlight (interviews with prominent cavers), International Exploration, News and Notes, Society News, and Safety and Techniques. |
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Post by guanonoggin on Mar 26, 2006 19:50:50 GMT -5
Oh Man! This is freakin bogus... So it looks like anybody from wherever with enough CA$H can grab up the NSS News and soak up all sorts of caving info they totally Don't need to have! Is every *^#@## thing for sale these days? Just goes to show ya any cave info can be had by anyone with connections or money these days. No friggin wonder so many cavers are Secret keepin' freaks!  Dudes - IMHO this whole deal is wack ...  Awesome linkage Rock! Dude, how'd you find this out?  |
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Post by Sharon Faulkner on Mar 27, 2006 7:46:58 GMT -5
Does this mean it is the NSS News AND the Journal Of Caves & Karst Studies Hey Rock, Yes, I believe that would be the price for the two ( NSS News & JCKS) combined, though there appears to be some markup in price. It would be less costly for a person to subscribe to one or both publications thru the NSS, at least according to the prices listed on the NSS website. Here are the subscription rates per item if a person only wished to receive one or the other. NSS News * one year: $23 * two years $44 * three years $65 Journal of Cave and Karst Studies * one year $23 * two years $44 * three years $65 Mail the NSS publication subscription form found here www.caves.org/pub/nssnews/pubsubform.pdf with payment to: National Speleological Society 2813 Cave Avenue Huntsville, AL 35810-4431 or I'm sure either of these folks will be happy to help anyone interested with subscriptions; Stephanie Searles at manager@caves.org or 256-852-1300 or Annette Nayman nss@caves.org Here is the online subscription link also if anyone is interested: www.caves.org/pubsub.shtml |
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Post by L Roebuck on Mar 27, 2006 9:47:35 GMT -5
I guess I do not understand why the NSS would need to sell the magazines through Amazon.  |
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Post by Sharon Faulkner on Mar 27, 2006 10:09:01 GMT -5
Well, I don't know for sure, but it may have something to do with financial concerns the Society has experienced or may experience in the future. The following are excerpts from the March 2006 Sec/Treas Report prepared for the Spring BOG Meeting. <snip> A budget for the 2006–07 fiscal year was approved by Executive Committee. It is a fairly lean budget though it calls for revenues and expenses of $529,000. It was a bit more difficult than some budgets because it could project only eleven months of revenue, but many of the expenses are not reduced from the current twelve month budget; the News will have only 11 issues, but the Members Manual and the Journal will have the same number of issues.
The Society has many costs that are essentially fixed, such as the News, Journal, office and staff expenses, and insurance, though their costs tend to increase each year. If the Society cannot significantly reduce expenses, as it appears it cannot, then it is obligated to increase income. No one wants to increase dues. The two things that would go the furthest toward increasing the Society’s revenue would be to increase membership and to publish more books. Are those areas being given sufficient emphasis?<snip> www.caves.org/nss-business/reports/mar06/s-t.html |
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Post by Azurerana on Mar 27, 2006 10:51:02 GMT -5
The NSS has has subscription only for years. Realistically, why would a library or other corporate entity need to be a 'member'? Yes, I know they also have institutional memberships, and those also run more than your typical Joe Caver signup. I'm not sure why the first two posters have their t-shirts in a twist. The subscription should include JCKS and Caving Accidents. I don't think subscribers would get the Member's Manual, (which is the only thing to actually be concerned about.)
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Post by madratdan on Mar 27, 2006 13:24:04 GMT -5
Maybe this will help the NSS bring in new members. I would like to see the NSS News distributed through book outlets such as Borders. At the least, the NSS should be selling them to college and university book stores for distribution. The NSS could and should be capitalizing from their magazine sales. They have the corner marketed for now, and it's only a matter of time before someone starts putting out a national caving magazine.
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Post by L Roebuck on Mar 28, 2006 8:31:52 GMT -5
 I agree with Dan I believe it is just a matter of time before some entity develops a National Caver Magazine. Don't you think when that time comes it will most likely greatly decrease the Society’s magazine revenues? I wonder if they have even considered this possibility when planning for the future of the NSS?  |
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Post by Rock on Mar 29, 2006 11:17:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure why the first two posters have their t-shirts in a twist. Excuse me - but that would be my underwear thats in a twist.  I wonder why that other board 'ministrator thieved my post and put it on their board? Didn't ask my permission or nothing-just ripped it off! [ caves.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1322 ] |
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Post by madratdan on Mar 29, 2006 16:09:11 GMT -5
Excuse me - but that would be my underwear thats in a twist. One word.......................Starch ;D That's what I use. Works as a wedgie preventer also  |
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Post by Rock on Mar 30, 2006 17:30:20 GMT -5
When you take them off will they stand up on their own? ;D ;D |
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